tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9987513.post2589033414963138816..comments2024-03-18T08:38:01.678+00:00Comments on The Life And Opinions of Andrew Rilstone: What if they gave an election an no-one came (3)Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9987513.post-83238867291211507642011-04-21T16:27:34.413+01:002011-04-21T16:27:34.413+01:00Mike, I think what Andrew's describing is isom...Mike, I think what Andrew's describing is isomorphic to an iterated prisoner's dilemma, though - if you have two people, both of whom would prefer party A but are OK with party B, and don't want to see party C get in, who would get in if the vote is split, and both know that last time both 'defected' and went with party B, then there's an incentive to defect again.Andrew Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07412263807838661843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9987513.post-55920736776463451372011-04-21T16:15:23.124+01:002011-04-21T16:15:23.124+01:00Stupid Blogger, and its inability to make URLs int...Stupid Blogger, and its inability to make URLs into links automatically. Here you go: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma" rel="nofollow">The Prisoner's Dilemma</a>.Mike Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06039663158335543317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9987513.post-6633305688499732402011-04-21T16:13:49.623+01:002011-04-21T16:13:49.623+01:00Much agreement all round.
But that's not what...Much agreement all round.<br /><br />But that's not what The Prisoner's Dilemma is -- its more like the Tragedy Of The Commons acted out in the small. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemmaMike Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06039663158335543317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9987513.post-34029132231398881532011-04-21T12:05:08.105+01:002011-04-21T12:05:08.105+01:00Yes and absolutely. The people who put that terrib...Yes and absolutely. The people who put that terrible leaflet together either don't understand what they're arguing for, or they're mendacious. It is, as you say, demented.DChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16032133398343706746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9987513.post-27863753474626684332011-04-21T10:20:19.310+01:002011-04-21T10:20:19.310+01:00****ing Blogger, by the way.****ing Blogger, by the way.Andrew Rilstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05786623930392936889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9987513.post-44936263628460279192011-04-21T09:10:55.536+01:002011-04-21T09:10:55.536+01:00Nick, exactly. This is why I want STV (which has n...Nick, exactly. This is why I want STV (which has none of those downsides,except for having slightly larger constituencies) but am happy to settle for AV.<br /><br />And Helen, I don't think the 'gut feeling' argument is incompetence. Cameron has deliberately lied throughout the campaign (saying e.g. that he couldn't explain AV, when he's got a PPE degree from Oxford). Unfortunately, though, the 'gut feeling' pseudo-argument works on a lot of people who should know better.Andrew Hickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07412263807838661843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9987513.post-76405507417212727312011-04-21T07:31:15.139+01:002011-04-21T07:31:15.139+01:00I'm perfectly content with AV as proposed.
Th...I'm perfectly content with AV as proposed. <br />The failing of most of the PR schemes out there seem to be that they're largely incomprehensible (cf the European Parliament rules), they break the link between the MP and a constituency (ibid) and if based about a list system (ibid) allow the swivel-eyed lunatic leader to place their cronies at the head of the list, effectively making it impossible to have an honourable, popular candidate elected.NickPheashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06650111383223877362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9987513.post-77181485470917113962011-04-20T23:15:44.241+01:002011-04-20T23:15:44.241+01:00Thanks for this - also I'm glad that you broug...Thanks for this - also I'm glad that you brought up Cameron's ridiculous 'gut-feeling' argument. I don't like the man anyway, but this was the first thing he's said that has made me suspect that he's incompetent as well as evil...Helen Louisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07600284354557428351noreply@blogger.com