tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9987513.post420896019530761114..comments2024-03-18T08:38:01.678+00:00Comments on The Life And Opinions of Andrew Rilstone: One Man Must Choose....Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9987513.post-40483859610233177422012-09-04T16:29:03.622+01:002012-09-04T16:29:03.622+01:00This was a great post, Andrew. Thank you for writi...This was a great post, Andrew. Thank you for writing it.Eric Spratlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05946204367966268082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9987513.post-74368342698887470822012-09-03T14:31:49.684+01:002012-09-03T14:31:49.684+01:00Most of those truthes are spectacularly banal I gr...Most of those truthes are spectacularly banal I grant you.NickPheashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06650111383223877362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9987513.post-79053132684451406402012-09-03T14:31:13.653+01:002012-09-03T14:31:13.653+01:00Not simply visiting dad, the stories do generally ...Not simply visiting dad, the stories do generally seem to involve discovering some truth about Krypton which shows just why Kal-El behaves a particular way now that he's a grownup. Which is indeed "gosh how ironic", but is about discovering his identity.NickPheashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06650111383223877362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9987513.post-10908771040554888782012-09-03T11:16:22.623+01:002012-09-03T11:16:22.623+01:00@Nick The Silver Age ("Earth 1") Superma...@Nick The Silver Age ("Earth 1") Superman is a different kettle of bananas. He was placed in the space ship by Jor-El as a toddler, and as always had clear memories of his home and family. The treatment of Time Travel in those comics is such that nipping back to the past to visit Dad or nipping back to the future to visit his pals in the legion is regarded on a level with buying a megabus ticket to Sheffield. Sometimes the stories set up a "gosh how ironic" parallel between earth and Krypton; sometimes they are set ups for something cool that can happen to the present day Superman (the phantom zone, supergirl, kandor); sometimes its just an excuse to have atomic giraffes and air-cars.<br /><br />The element which "doesn't feature in any other version of the mythos" is "Clark walking on foot to the north pole to meet Jor-El" not specifically the "who am I" question.<br /><br />There may have been a particular golden age episode in which Superman discovers that he came from Krypton (implication being that up to that point he didn't.)Andrew Rilstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16934052271846235431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9987513.post-42893801862133788672012-09-03T09:49:28.271+01:002012-09-03T09:49:28.271+01:00"Not insignificantly, the first question Clar..."Not insignificantly, the first question Clark / Superman / Kal-El asks his father is "Who am I?" <br /><br /><br />Why has this relatively minor element in the Chrisopher Reeve movie -- which doesn't really feature in any other version of the mythos "<br /><br />You don't see the roughly every third month time travel back to Kyrpton stories of the late 50s and early 60s being at least in part about Superman's identity?NickPheashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06650111383223877362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9987513.post-24385358546925501742012-09-02T05:40:58.782+01:002012-09-02T05:40:58.782+01:00PS Thanks, Andrew.PS Thanks, Andrew.Greg Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02262613527028934169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9987513.post-7087322577877255812012-09-02T05:40:04.419+01:002012-09-02T05:40:04.419+01:00The alternate version of the MOS preview has a Jor...The alternate version of the MOS preview has a Jor-El quote from Grant Morrison's All-Star Superman. It seems amazing to me that someone could be aware of that book and then make a film entirely about the bits Morrison just plain left out of the story.<br /><br />Imagine making a Raiders of the Lost Ark-style Superman (or anything) film. Starts with him fully-formed, fighting bad guys because it's the right thing to do. Never happen, would it?<br /><br />Superman's origin is the least important thing about him - as it usually is for most superheroes. His best villains* - Luthor, Darkseid, Bizarro, are best experienced sans-origin as well. But we'll never get that story of Clark Kent's journalistic sleuthing uncovering a Fourth World stealth invasion, say, but instead origin, refusal of the call, brooding, choice, third-act punch up.<br /><br />*Superman's thought of as having a villain problem, which isn't true. It's just that his friends are more important than his villains and they tend to get left out of everything.Greg Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02262613527028934169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9987513.post-51923099801882965442012-09-01T23:10:22.840+01:002012-09-01T23:10:22.840+01:00@Gavin
1: Yes,indeed. In fact there's a whole...@Gavin<br /><br />1: Yes,indeed. In fact there's a whole nother section about the obsession with origin stories which I may get around to finishing, but goes over even more of the same ground as yours. <br /><br />2: Have you ever wished that George could re-edit the film so that Greedo shoots first?<br /><br />3: I don't know if Lois, Jimmy and Perry are essential to the Superman Myth or Archetypal. Its just interesting that while Ma and Pa Kent are sometimes alive and sometimes dead and Kryptonite may or may not exist, his boss, his girlfriend and his mate always seem to be there.<br /><br />@WV Around here we refer to that film only as The Abomination. :)Andrew Rilstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05786623930392936889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9987513.post-34628016893244749832012-09-01T22:48:48.439+01:002012-09-01T22:48:48.439+01:00I fear your spam filter has it in for me...I fear your spam filter has it in for me...Gavin Burrowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16347163260510316959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9987513.post-65345190985235390492012-09-01T22:23:26.799+01:002012-09-01T22:23:26.799+01:00Three things, my lord...
1. Great minds would see...Three things, my lord...<br /><br />1. Great minds would seem to think alike...<br />http://lucidfrenzy.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/not-proper-review-at-all-of-new-amazing.html<br /><br />2. <i>”Han Solo is very definitely a baddie in Act I of Star Wars -- I don't know if you've ever spotted this, but he shoots Greedo before Greedo has even had a chance to go for his gun”</i><br />It is okay to shoot people in films if they are called Greedo and speaking in subtitles.<br /><br />3. <i>“Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen and Perry White are about the only three constants in every retelling of the Superman story”</i><br />Perhaps so, but then it's odd that when essentially similar elements were taken out of the new Spider-Man film, how little difference it seemed to make. Is that because unlike Superman, Spider-Man essentially <i>is</i> you or me but with superpowers?Gavin Burrowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16347163260510316959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9987513.post-80231272211548322732012-09-01T20:12:46.813+01:002012-09-01T20:12:46.813+01:00This is exactly how I felt about the Star Trek reb...This is exactly how I felt about the Star Trek reboot, though the details are slightly different. As a movie, it was fun. But I loathed the way New Kirk was written. For all of his skirt-chasing and swashbuckling and Shatner's odd acting choices, Old Kirk was a particular kind of hero you don't see a lot of anymore: he was a guy who really liked his job and believed in it, who had a team he liked and respected. He was (and wanted to be) part of a healthy, working social order and part of the optimism of the show was the fundamental belief that that was admirable and could be how the world worked. New Kirk is yet another conflicted pretty-boy with daddy issues who must be coaxed by plot devices into service in an organization he neither likes nor respects so that he can Fulfill his Destiny of Being Awesome - because that's the only story about heroes Hollywood knows how to tell anymore.WVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18263373879400483421noreply@blogger.com