Monday, April 11, 2005

P.S

I only just "got" the ending -- why Dickens said "There are more thing in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

Gosh. That is actually rather clever. And spooky.

Gosh.

10 comments:

Pete said...

Errm.. okay, yes, Hamlet to Horatio on seeing his father's ghost...

Sorry, feeling thick here, what?

I preferred the Big Bad Wolf hint myself...

Andrew Rilstone said...

((I guess on ought to say "SPOILERS" for the benefit of people who are on "Doctor Who" challenged sides of the Atlantic))



Gwynneth, who believes in angels and Heaven, was dead as soon as she walked under the arch. But she was still talking and in the end destroyed the gaseous things. Dickens has had his world view expanded by the Doctor, realising that alien beings do exist. But something other than an alien being was controlling / helping Gwynneth. What? There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy, Doctor.

Flash said...

You know I interpreted that (inasmuch as interpreted can be used in a context of something which makes little or no sense) differently.

I thought that either
a - The Doctor was simply saying "I think she was dead..." because other Rose would cry and hate him and he wouldn't get a shag.
or
b - The Doctor was simply saying "I think she was dead..." in the same way that McCoy says "he's dead already" about Spock in the Wrath of Khan - they was no way she could be saved from her current predicament, so it's easiest on us all to consider her dead already.

Either way, I assumed it was another throwaway comedy line when Dickens said his piece.

Dan Hemmens said...

And so begins the ritual over-analysis...

I wasn't sure what to make of the "she's already dead" line. I havered over the "as good as dead" interpretation, but what with Dickens' line, I'd rather assumed there was supposed to be something Else going on.

I was also a little disconcerted by the implication that this "something else" may have been something supernatural, rather than something cod-scientific. But maybe that's just me.

Pete said...

Oh right. I'm with Mr Rilstone on this one then... especially given Dickens, ah, non-church approved version of things in, say, A Christmas Carol (a supernatural story of Christmas without the Baby Jesus? How the heck does THAT get on US TV every yuletide?)

Charles Filson said...

Damn it, could somebody please tell me how I can watch this?

Anybody willing to sponser me for British subjugation? I'll give up my inalienable rights to Apple Pie and Mcdonalds if I can watch Dr. Who!

Pete, consider that Rudolf the Boozer Reindeer also gets a showing. What suprises me more is this new TV series coming out that is supposed to be based on the book of Revelation. (Even though they named it Revelations...maybe to avoid copy write infringement. ;-)

Colin S said...

Charles said:
"Anybody willing to sponser me for British subjugation?"
Actually we tried that: ended rather badly, especially for the tea. Now: if you are really, really smart and can do a job hardly enyone else can;or: you are filthy rich and don't need to work but will pay our taxes; or: alternatively, if you exceeding quiet and defferential and are prepared to do a job no UK citizen would lower themselves to; then, and only then, might we, subject to quotas, public opinion, recent headlines, and if there's an election pending (which there is), possibly be prepared to let you stay here, provided you accept out utter right to deport for any reason we like back to where you came.

On the other hand you might be able to get in if either of your parents were born within the European Union, or,and a long shot this, you are prepared to be a nanny/au pair for our Home Secretary.

Personally I'd save up for the DVDs which are bound to follow or write very rude letters to the Sci-Fi Channel which turned the series down when it was offered them.
Yours, Colin.

Charles Filson said...

Oooo, I think I'll take the rude letter option. That sounds fun.

Dear Sci-Fi Channel, you suck...wait that's probably been done...especially after Earth Sea.

How about...Dear Sci-Fi channel, what the hell were you thinking?

Maybe I should write to A&E instead. They at least picked up Hornblower, course that ended in my wife having a crush of Lancelot.

Andrew Rilstone said...

Mr Amazon says that "vanilla" DVDS will start coming out in may. But I'll hold out for the boxed set with extras in November.

morgue said...

She was definitely dead but still moving. That was the point of the moment when the Doctor reached out and touched her neck - he was checking for a pulse.